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Who can prove or disprove Christianity?
I care, thanks!!
Reply:No one can prove anything about whether God exists.
Christianity DOES exist. There ARE Christians in this world...quite a few, in fact.
Reply:Jesus can. The Christian religion is the only 'religion' that has a Savior, one that went to the Cross to save us from our sins, died, rose again, and is Alive today!
Reply:Christianity exists, there's no need to disprove it.
However, their religion is, like all religions, based on myth, superstition bigotry, bloodshed, fear, and of course brainwashing.
But don't let that get in the way of a good story.
Reply:Who cares?
Reply:There is proof if you believe eg
1 John 5:7-8 In fact there are 3 witnesses, the Spirit, the water and the blood.
- personal knowledge of the Holy Spirit
- water denotes baptism or being born again (I think), a very real transition into a new life.
- the blood refers to being forgiven and very much knowing it (most christians must have known the joy and peace from being forgiven, initially and later when a bad sin has been committed)
Reply:Christianity is a very real religion which affects our society in many ways through ltieratue and arts, holidays, institutions, etc, however, no one can definately prove that Yahweh the Christian God ever really existed or not
Reply:Its a little like trying to prove 2 + 2 = 4. For religion, its more like the lack of proof. I knew some pretty pious people who, one day, needed a favor from god, and they did not get it. All of these miracles of the bible took place 1000s of years ago, but there havn't been any miracles in the modern age. Things like parting of the waters, virgin births and so on. Look at all the massacres there have been throughout the ages. God could not even lift a finger to save an innocent child from the gas chambers and they were pious people also.
The god of the bible seems to like people saying prayers. What kind of personality does he have if this is so? The whole scene has the wrong mentality for anyone with an intellect. He will send you to hell if you don't live according to his rule. Sorry, i'm outta here.
Reply:I have much disproof of it. I recently bought a book about "The Case Against Christianity". It has a longer and more detailed account of this than I do personally. A major point is that the Bible has 2 versions of Jesus' date of birth that are 11 or more years apart. One says he was born in the reign of Herod who died in 4 BCE. Another says he was born during Quirinius' census of 7 CE.
Reply:Well, Christianity is a belief in Christ. I am not sure what you are asking other than Christ lived---history records it---Christ was tried----history records it----Christ was scourged---history records it----Christ was crucified----history records it. I guess you could say we have proof of Christ's life and death---but I am so thankful that I don't have to PROVE His resurrection. Cos one day---He can do that all by Himself. I am not an apologist so I cannot do Him justice. Thanks for asking.
Reply:Jesus failed and broke the prophecies of the Coming Messiah. The documentation is well researched and presented at http://www.jewsforjudaism.org .
Jesus was an enemy of G-D for leading people to false worship. Was he spiritually empowered at all, the Holy Spirit of which he spoke could be none but the Adversary, Satan.
For the record, yes, I've read Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ" and "Case for a Creator." They were so heavily laden with logical errors as to be utterly worthless. C. S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" had similar flaws though not quite so many.
Reply:I don't claim to know what I'm talking about, but I do agree with a lot of what this says.
I also know that I have all the proof I need. I know He is real, that He loves me, and that Jesus died for our sin. That's my proof, it's up to you to find yours.
Reply:The premise of Christianity is absurd. The idea that somehow the suffering of an innocent person makes it unnecessary for the guilty party to pay retribution is ridiculous. If I punch you and then somebody kicks a baby, I'm sure you (the original victim) will feel satisfied that justice has been served, right? And on top of that, I'm supposed to WANT this innocent person to suffer in my place - I'm supposed to try and weasel out.
So, unless you think the universe is utterly absurd, Christianity is false.
You say I don't know what Jesus is. Is not Jesus "the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world" ?
Jesus is an innocent, sacrificed to pay the price for my crimes. The Bible just goes on and on and on about that. It's not I who doesn't know what Jesus is. It's you.
And another thing. I made a matter of fact statement. There was no disrespectful language used in my answer. You don't like the content of my argument. Perhaps it makes you uncomfortable. But, to use the word, disrespectful, is inaccurate and an injustice.
Reply:That is pretty good, man. I like how you didn't take sides in that article you wrote. I guess the only real solution is to stop arguing and debating, and speading false lies about each other, and just be on our way with our beliefs.
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